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johnwhilley



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Post Post subject: To Peter Barron re Crick's piece on Respect split Reply with quote

Dear Peter,

Michael Crick's Newsnight 'report' (16 November 2007) on the split within Respect was a disgraceful piece of shallow, biased 'journalism'.

We had the usual and expected cheap jibes and trivialities (Life of Brian-type factionalisms and that well-worn footage of Galloway in his Big Brother attire). But, we also had offensive, insulting commentary from Crick on those who form part of this movement.

I'd like you to consider very seriously the propriety of a so-called serious investigative reporter talking in sneering tones of the (former) Respect coalition as “Muslims, Marxists and a ragbag of others on the left.”

I actually count myself as a supportive part of that “ragbag” left tradition. Are people who have contributed as activists, academics and in other socially-progressive ways just to be dismissed in such derisory terms? And why the implied assumption of Muslims, Marxists and the “ragbag” as somehow distinct? Can't a Muslim also be a Marxist – or part of the “ragbag”?

Is it remotely possible to report earnestly, analytically and, dare I say it, intellectually, on such matters? Or does Gavin Esler's own sneering laugh at the end of the piece represent the true nature of Newsnight's approach to covering the left? I strongly suspect so.

You should really be embarrassed by Crick's puerile output. It's no more qualitative than that expected of the Sun.

Regards,
John
Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:56 am
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It's not just that Crick's report is biased and cliché-ridden. It's the patronising assumption that the viewer can't see this, nor cares to desire anything more qualitative.

It's part of a deep and widening poverty of journalism which eschews any serious attempt to understand, inform and explain an issue in its analytic essentials. It's dumbed-down reportage posing as 'flippant', 'irreverent' 'invstigation'.

"Confused? I am", says Crick, feigning apparent bemusement at the 'double conference'. Actually, it's not very confusing at all, as Crick obviously knows. Neither is this just a reporting device. It's part of the standard medium of ridicule reserved for left political matters.

Ultimately, there's nothing of substance here, no contextual analysis, little that would leave the viewer more aware or enlightened.

It's, essentially, 'info-tainment'. Piece pending about the 'mad left?' Let's get 'Crick on the case.' Context and story-line? Oh, yes, let's do the usual jocular stroll around the main players; even get them to comment in serious tones so we can intercut it with pantomime clips and references.

If this wasn't such a gross distortion, Crick's piece could itself be laughed-off as pantomime journalism. Alas, with it's box of editorial tricks and clowning tone, that's exactly what it is. The problem is the serious propaganda it serves to convey in the process.

John
Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:10 pm
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Exchange with Peter Barron

(19/11/2007)

Dear John,

I'm sorry you were unhappy with Michael Crick's piece about the split within Respect.

Newsnight and Michael Crick have always treated politics and politicians with robustness and sometimes a sense of mischief, but I don't think there was anything in Friday's report which was offensive or unfair to Respect or different in tone from the way we might talk about other parties.

It was certainly not our intention to be sneering and I don't think we
were.

Best wishes

Peter

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(20/11/2007)

Dear Peter,

Thanks for your comments.

I have no problem with a little stylistic irreverence or “mischief”, as you call it. The bland world of mainstream politics would be all the duller without it. But that's rather different from the routine pantomime coverage of the left, as evident in Crick's film.

As noted, there's an apparent assumption within the BBC that we can't have a seriously-informed and intellectual discussion about 'far left' politics – even on a supposedly analytical slot like Newsnight. I wonder why. Instead, we're treated to crude stereotypes and reductionist labels like “Muslims, Marxists and a ragbag of others on the left.” Where's the actual analysis?

On Saturday, the two 'Respect factions' held their respective conferences. Seeking detailed discussion of the ideological issues separating them, and the possible outcomes, I happened upon Richard Seymour 's (aka Lenin of Lenin's Tomb) account of the non-Galloway event. http://leninology.blogspot.com/2007/11/respect-very-live.html And, even though he's part of that latter grouping, the standard of analytical journalism in his report made Crick's look like a piece of lazy tabloid copy. In short, it told me meaningful things about the issue.

There's now a well- documented bias in how the BBC, at large, covers left politics and 'maverick' left politicians – as in John Sweeney's appalling portrayal of Chavez (This World, BBC2, 19 November 2007). And, like Sweeney's loaded and cartoonish diatribe on the Bolivarian reforms, Crick's report had virtually nothing to say about the serious, ideological reasons behind the Respect split as a significant development in left British politics.

A short report like this may not allow for forensic examination of the issues. But, should it be so reliant on cheap caricature and dumbed-down content?

Best wishes,
John

PS: well done with last week's revealing report on Trident and the UK's 'launch procedures'.
Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:00 pm
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An interesting reply here from Newsnight's Meirion Jones, who produced Michael Crick's report on the Respect split. Some of the comments are, I think, revealing of the thinking behind the production and editing process.

Jones comments:

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I’m sorry that John thinks we’re shallow and that Michael isn’t as dull as John would like – we’ll try to make Michael report in a more tedious way in future.


Why, one wonders, should a request for serious analysis of the issue be equated as “dull” and “tedious”? Thus, alongside it's lampoon-the-left reportage, anyone taking exception to Crick's 'mischief-laced' bias is to be regarded as po-faced. (I'm grinning here at the thought of my po-face.)

Here's another merry-making allusion from Jones:

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Socialist Worker and the Respect website were also silent - pretending to their memberships that John Rees and George and George Galloway were dancing the hokey-cokey together while in reality the leading characters were carving each other up in crisis meetings.


Or could it be that a quite profound ideological debate was in process here, with serious ramifications for the left and its electoral constituency? But why bother with such “dull” and “tedious” subject matter when “hokey-cokey” language and imagery will do?

The defence of pantomime journalism goes on:

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As for trivialities like Big Brother – correct me if I’m wrong but it wasn’t Michael Crick who volunteered to dress up in a leotard and prance around.


No it wasn't. But there's still no need to include such trivialities in the report – unless, as with the Life of Brian cliché, it's part of the lampoon journalism reserved for covering the left.

Likewise:

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When we ran our first film on September 21st George Galloway wasn’t available for interview about Respect but he had spent the week appearing on another reality TV show falling off toff’s horses and doing a jobswop with a would-be Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. And you’re asking Michael Crick to behave “earnestly, analytically and, dare I say it, intellectually”.


So, Galloway's unavailability for a Newsnight interview, while engaged in other 'trivial pursuits', somehow gives Crick and his producer the moral authority to ridicule him and others in their 'panto squabble'.

Jones finishes with this reminder of Newsnight's 'unparalleled devotion' to 'balanced' leftist comment:

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That said where else on TV but Newsnight would you see the likes of Ken Loach, John Rees, Nick Wrack and Oliur Rahman interviewed on the eve of the Respect conference, sorry, conferences.


Indeed. A fine example of how to juxtapose serious leftist comment with whimsical editing, thus debasing the viewpoint expressed.

Crick's report and Jones's defence of such output would, itself, be laughable if not for the gross bias their words serve to reveal. Crick's piece is but one example of the selective narrative and devices ever-available to ridicule the 'extreme left'. But Jones's comments also help delineate the caustic ways in which people like Galloway are regarded by journalists, editors and producers within the liberal media.

Instead of the weary Big Brother and Python jibes, we could have had reference to Galloway's famous Senate appearance, in which he talked eloquently of the disastrous mass murder in Iraq. Instead of the offensive “Muslims, marxists and a rag bag of others on the left” dismissals, we could have had an informed reading of the current alignments, tensions and, yes, intellectual thinking within the left.

The suggestion that such approaches might be deemed too “dull” or “tedious” for the viewer indicates not only the propagandist effect of such output, but also the kind of gate-keeping rationale and production values that lie behind it.

John

The Newsnight site's intro piece, and Meirion Jones's comments in full:

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RESPECT
Rather like the Monty Python take on the People's Front of Judaea who were NOT under any circumstances to be confused with the Judean People's Front, George Galloway's party "Respect" is holding its conference this weekend. And so is Respect. Confused? Well, there's a split. Or maybe there isn't. Our political editor Michael Crick will try to find out.


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At 11:19 AM on 18 Nov 2007,
meirion jones wrote:

John Hilley’s points are worth responding to. I produced Michael Crick’s report on the split in Respect – and indeed the previous one on September 21st which broke the news that Respect was about to split. I also produced the Newsnight investigation into vote fixing in Birmingham by Labour which included an interview with a former Respect councillor who alleged that he'd been told that Laobour had spent £10,000 buying votes in his ward. More recently on Thursday night I produced the Newsnight investigation into the security of Britain’s nuclear weapons which revealed that Britain is the only country which does not have a fail safe to prevent its nuclear submarine commanders launching a nuclear war and that until 1998 the RAF's nuclear bombs were armed with bicycle lock keys.

I’m sorry that John thinks we’re shallow and that Michael isn’t as dull as John would like – we’ll try to make Michael report in a more tedious way in future. The fact is that when we revealed back in September the depth of the divisions in the “Unity Coalition” no mainstream media had covered this and more importantly Socialist Worker and the Respect website were also silent - pretending to their memberships that John Rees and George and George Galloway were dancing the hokey-cokey together while in reality the leading characters were carving eachother up in crisis meetings. We exposed this and in recent weeks we have been encouraged by Respect members to return to the subject.

Friday was supposed to be the eve of the “Unity Coalition”. Instead there was open war with rival conventions meeting on opposite sides of London, allegations of McCarthyism, intimidation and violence. That was worth reporting. Last time neither faction would do an interview with Newsnight – this time they both put up two of their leading members to do down the other side.

As to the cheap jibes. It was Nick Wrack who mentioned Life of Brian to us before the interview began and played along enthusiastically on screen “They’re over there…” As for trivialities like Big Brother – correct me if I’m wrong but it wasn’t Michael Crick who volunteered to dress up in a leotard and prance around. When we ran our first film on September 21st George Galloway wasn’t available for interview about Respect but he had spent the week appearing on another reality TV show falling off toff’s horses and doing a jobswop with a would-be Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. And you’re asking Michael Crick to behave “earnestly, analytically and, dare I say it, intellectually”. As Michael said in Friday's report there is a serious space to the left of New Labour for a political party of the disillusioned but Respect is showing little sign this weekend of being that party or indeed of being a party at all.

That said where else on TV but Newsnight would you see the likes of Ken Loach, John Rees, Nick Wrack and Oliur Rahman interviewed on the eve of the Respect conference, sorry, conferences.
Meirion

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