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joe emersberger



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Post Post subject: Exchange with Hugh Skyes re Suicide Bombings in Iraq Reply with quote

Mr. Skyes:

You told Mediialens that you had "no proof" Al Qaeda was behind recent
attacks but rhetorically asked

"who else would do this?"

In 2006 PIPA poll found 61% of Iraqis approved of attacks on US troops.

Polls from 2008 found 78% want US out in 6 months or less.

Isn't that compelling evidence that there are a considerable number of
Iraqis, potentially numbering in the millions, who might have been driven to
perpetrate attacks on anyone perceived to be collaborating with the US occupation?

Moreover, as Medialens also pointed out,

"What these suicide attackers - and their heirs today - shared was not a
religious or political ideology but simply a commitment to resisting a foreign
occupation." (Pape, 'What we still don't understand about Hizbollah,' The
Observer, August 6, 2006; _http://www.guardian.co.uk
/commentisfree/2006/aug/06/israel.syria_
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/aug/06/israel.syria) )

Joe Emersberger

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_http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/517.php?lb=brme&pnt=517&nid=&id_
(http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/517.php?lb=brme&pnt=517&nid=&id) =

HIS REPLY

In a message dated 4/5/2009 6:52:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hugh.sykes@bbc.co.uk writes:

Polls, schmolls.

'approving' of attacks on US troops does not mean they mounted the suicide attack on the Jalawla funeral, which is what this discussion was/is about, and about that I remain convinced it was AQI, unless evidence is provided to the contrary. It is their 'signature', and as I am paid to provide analysis as well as factual reporting, that is what I do. I analyse, with much thought, and reach conclusions. Journalism is an art, not a science. And if you look carefully at my output over the years, you will find I provide a very healthy dose of scepticism when and where that is due (almost always!)

This manufactured Medialens debate about one sentence published by Online is, I suspect, someone at Medialens simply picking a fight - well, they picked the wrong topic and the wrong man.

Mr. Skyes:
Of course "approving" of attacks does not mean they have carried them out, but it obviously gives an indication of how many people may be cable of joining the armed resistance.
If you look at Iraqi demographics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iraq#Age_structure

the 60% approved of attacks that works out to about 10 million people.Even if only 1% were willing to sacrifice their lives that is still 100,000 people.

You've also ignored the evidence unearthed by Robert Pape about suicide bombers being driven by politics - specifically resistance to foreign occupation.

I haven't been able to find very much at all about your output since 2002. However the output of the BBC and other corporate news sources has been closely examined. Journalists failed utterly to expose a case for war that was completely absurd. Given that failure you should welcome more public scrutiny of your work.

Joe Emersberger

HIS REPLY

In a message dated 4/6/2009 2:12:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hugh.sykes@bbc.co.uk writes:

You wrote: "obviously gives an indication of how many people may be cable of joining the armed resistance."

Very theoretical...and, if they do join, the armed resistance in Diyala province is almost exclusively funded and resources by AQI.

I hope you're not an 'Iran Conspiracy theorist'!

Or do you think Turkey is practising the Black Arts against Kurdish funerals?

Enough, enough...I have work to do, not obsessions to respond to. As you say, you don't know much about my work.....if you bothered to find out/listen/watch etc, you would discover a very independent-minded and sceptical correspondent.


MY FINAL REPLY

When you don't cite sources that can be checked and evaluated you hardly give evidence of scepticism and independence. Hope you do better in future.
Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:09 am
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joe emersberger



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A very recent survey of Iraqi public opinion.

42% approve of attacks on Coalition forces

4% approve of attacks on Iraqi governmnet forces.

38% want US to leave immediately
61% believe US troops makes security situation worse

53% say security in their neghborhood or village is now worse or the same as it was 6 months ago

63% say this for Iraq as a whole

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/poll/2008/0308opinion.pdf
Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:52 am
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